15 NEW CASES RECORDED IN MADEIRA

Tobi Hughes·
Madeira News

The Institute of Health Administration reported this afternoon that 15 new cases of covid-19 were registered in Madeira.

According to the daily bulletin, among these are 13 imported cases: eight from the United Kingdom, three from France, and two from the North of Portugal. In addition to these, there are two cases of local transmission.

IASAÚDE also indicates two new recoveries.

The Region now accounts for a total of 373 confirmed cases, two of which 124 are active. 249 people have already been considered recovered.

IASAÚDE confirms that there are two positive cases in Madeira related to a sports club.

These are two imported cases “confirmed at the end of this week”.

He also mentions the Madeiran health authority that, due to these two cases, “all the other practitioners involved and the respective technical team were tested, in a total of 54 contacts”, having submitted a negative PCR test for COVID-19.

From Jornal Madeira

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      1. Maurice, I think the comments wanting no Brits, no Polish are from ex-pats living on the Island with secure incomes. Perhaps they could explain to us how they expect locals, dependent on the hospitality industry to carry on with the shortage of visitors. I have just been informed by RCI that the Pestana Group will be opening just three Time Share/Hotels over Christmas. Perhaps they could invite the out of work locals for Christmas lunch, a nice guesture.

          1. Where there is a will etc. It is quite possible to get a private test here in the UK. And to comply with the short time gap before departure from the UK. If Madeira allows itself to import the virus in the numbers it has, say from the UK – then it will kill off its hospitality industry . Being a clean destination makes it attractive to tourists. It still has that reputation. But only just.

            Reading today’s article in the S Times about how the UK government mishandled the virus when older people ( the profile of many Madeira UK visitors) got it, earlier this year makes for awful reading . It treats people 65+ as disposable. So going virus free to Madeira seems a natural courtesy to many of us- showing respect for the economic future of the island.

  4. I agree partially with M – UK has in excess of 20.000 per day with deaths increasing daily – alarmingly high and still rising – but surely pax need to travel With a negative Covid result !!
    Whats an additional £150 on a safe holiday here for a private test pre travel keeping many safe pre, during and post flight. There will be positives from those who are going to come To the Island as the test and result is only valid within the 72 hrs of testing
    Everyone is trying to be god right now and we are living in very difficult times.
    Visitors to our Island are needed but at what expense …. we as residents will pay for the tests and the quarantine ultimately in hotels but as they build
    In numbers is this realistic to continue ?
    And there will be deaths sadly if this influx continues ?

  5. What happens with those who travel on the same aircraft as those who test positive?

    1. Not a lot. If everyone wears masks then the risk of infection spread is said to be 0.003%

  6. As I feared the numbers are climbing and the risk of one day one positive case slipping thru grows by the day. The procedure should be changed NOW: All visitors (business or leisure) must be tested at their expense BEFORE departing for Madeira and upon arrival must be tested again, this time free of charge. Any positive case should be referred to the representative of the visitor’s country re quarantine, repatriation etc. at own expense. – Yes, the island needs tourists but it does not need potential super spreaders!
    PS: the above proposal will sooner or later become the new norm of travel.

    1. How funny! When I noticed that another ‘Harald’ also occasionally posted here, I added an ‘S’ for distinction and it seems my alter ego now added his full name for the same reason, but even that isn’t much different, mine being ‘Sammer’.

      As to this topic, I’m sure that cases are already slipping through, since in the Azores, where they do a second test after six days, they do get a small percentage of hits the second time round. But I would suspect that these cases may have been infected during their trip, at an airport or on a plane and a 72 hours before test would also have been negative.

      There is nothing that is 100% safe, but one can hope that the measures taken are good enough to keep things under control here.

      1. Hi Harald (that’s you!), you are right the “S” alone doesn’t make the difference. I take the unusual liberty of adding my email address: harald@uymail.com for a contact if you wish.
        Regards, Harald (that’s me!)

      2. Hi Harald (that’s you!), you are right the “S” doesn’t make the difference. I add my email address in a bit of a cryptic way as it did not go thru in the regular frmat: harald at uymail dot com if you wish to drop me a line. Regards, Harald (that’s me!)

  7. Amanda’s and Elizabeth’s points are good, and among the reasons we’ve sadly decided not to make our annual January visit.

  9. Perhaps those from problem countries like the UK should have to produce a negative PCR certificate before boarding here in the UK. NO Certificate = NO flight to Madeira. That would be a great incentive ! The situation here in the UK seemsvto go from bad to worse. C 120 deaths a day on a rolling average. Positive Test Results on sn exponential increase. And too many people ignoring restrictions. And politicians playing games with our health. Madeira has and is doing a great job with testing on arrival. So why import more cases ‘?

    1. Sounds good but the testing in the UK is just not up go the task at the moment. Even with private testing you cannot guarantee getting results back in 72 hours.

    2. I totally agree.

      At the moment it’s just a ticking time bomb that we’re on here on the island, waiting to explode.

      And, dont forget the tourists that arrive here carrying the virus without showing symptoms! They’re potential spreaders.

      And what about the people who don’t wait for the test results and hit the streets?
      The Italian tourist has not been the only one who did that, that’s for sure.

  10. Are flights still leaving UK from tier 3 regional airports? Manchester. Leeds, east mids , ?

    2. Yes they are! Is it not bad enough that UK government already demonising the north of England without other people doing it! We are hoping to travel to Madeira for New Year from Manchester Airport but if the flight is cancelled we will just transfer to flight departing from Gatwick or Heathrow

      1. I too am booked to spend Christmas and the New Year in Madeira. At the moment the area I live is safe, Tier 1 . If it becomes Tier 2, I will think very carefully before flying, if it becomes Tier 3 I will remain at home. It will be to big a risk to pass on to my friends in Madeira. The British Government is preventing people living in areas with a Tier 3 rating from leaving that area, how can it be right they are allowed to leave the country. The Air Lines should be checking residential details of passengers before boarding.

  11. There are plenty of responsible people here in uk. If everyone looks after their own safety then they are also protecting others. As for testing prior to flying whether private or NHS you cannot guarantee getting result in time. Self testing is not always effective and there will always be a few false positives/negatives. Nothing is 100% accurate. I want Madeira to stay safe too it’s home from home for us. Please don’t think all Brits or Polish are irresponsible!

  12. We are due in Madeira for New Year for 2 weeks. It is frightening that airline passenger numbers with Covid is increasing.
    The question was asked ‘What happens to the other passengers on an infected flight’ Are they not liable to be asked to isolate for 2 weeks. I would not like to spend 2 weeks in a hotel room, no matter how good it was.
    If we were to cancel our flight, we would probably lose our money, but not if the airline cancelled our flight. Who is going to blink first. We need some clarification on this.

    1. Only those with a positive result are isolated, it’s virtually impossible to catch the virus on a plane which we have repeated here many times.

  13. With interest I read all the comments and questions about this subject.
    So many people, so many opinions, so many assumptions and so many different interests.
    We are currently living in a complicated time, the longer this situation takes, the more people only think about themselves, about their own interests.
    People feel, and are, limited in their freedom of movement, which in turn causes people to react aggressively and many seek and apologize as to why they have to travel.

    I hear a lot of sounds about people coming to Madeira because they have been coming here for years and that they now come because they want to help the Madeiran economy and that it is so sad for Madeira.
    Yes it is but please….people, stop with these pitiful excuses, the reason people come to Madeira is because they want to go on holiday and that Madeira has remained fairly accessible so far and they believe they can have a safe holiday that and that alone is the reason.

    All the testing and putting people in quarantine is costing the government a lot of money, tax money that could have been used to repair roads, improve schools, you name it!
    Yes tourists bring in money but it makes me laugh when I read from someone, staying in a hotel for not even 60 euros per night, that “some restaurants are welcoming them with open arms and that they spend at least 40 euros on a dinner in those restaurants, I do hope that’s per person and without the tip, what a joke.

    Yes, the main source of income on our island is tourism, if the tourists don’t come it will be a huge blow to the economy, unemployment and criminality are, unfortunately, already on the rise and it’s becoming visible.
    No one is happy with this, not the locals and not the tourists.

    All of this harms the Madeirans mentally and physically, many people are suffering, many struggle to pay their bills which by the way is not a picture just on Madeira but unfortunately in many countries but…even though this is terrifying one should think about that, if the trend continues and we see an upward trend in infections every day, we also have to ask ourselves what will happen to the Madeirans if there is a large Covid outbreak.

    Health care on the island is, for the average Madeiran, not the best and sometimes simply out of reach, intensive care beds are very limited and on top of that, many people also still live in remote areas in poor conditions.
    A large outbreak of Covid-19 will be a disaster just like a collapsed economy, people will be bitten by either the cat or the dog, but what is worse?

    1. “I hear a lot of sounds about people coming to Madeira because they have been coming here for years and that they now come because they want to help the Madeiran economy and that it is so sad for Madeira.
      Yes it is but please….people, stop with these pitiful excuses, the reason people come to Madeira is because they want to go on holiday and that Madeira has remained fairly accessible so far and they believe they can have a safe holiday that and that alone is the reason.”

      I have been coming to Madeira since 1968, this Christmas will be about our sixtieth trip, sixth this year, and I know I help the economy and I don’t think it’s sad, I think the Madeirans are very brave and doing everything right. I can only suggest you talk to Restaurant owners and hoteliers I think you will find they disagree with you.
      I object to my reasons for coming be called pitiful.

      What would you like ? A complete lockdown of the airport ? No tourists ? No income ? Please tell us what your answer is.

      1. I understand your feelings very well.
        But…yes, untill we have proper control of the virus. No tourists, no income is bad but spreading the virus and hundreds of Madeirans infected is worse and that will also lead to a total lockdown, no tourists, no income and on top of that hundreds of sick Madeirans without proper healthcare available. So.., in short Madeira needs to have a good control of this virus and unfortunately it seems that the control is getting out of hand.

        1. So do you wish to close the airport, until when ? Until the virus is under control, when will that be ? What will people without an income live on ?

    2. I agree totally with Lois. No- one should be allowed on a plane without being tested first. This would be a way to help the Madeira economy by us no longer having to spend our tax money giving free tests to foreigners.

  14. You make some good points Lois.
    We cannot win one way or the other .
    It is now being reported by scientists that Covid will never be eradicated and we will have to learn to live with it. Interestingly, worldwide flu cases are down 98%.

  15. Madeira is promoted as a safe place to travel despite the rise in covid infection which defies logic . In addition to this I think all the emergency workers on madeira doctors nurses volunteers fire service should be honoured in some way I think a madeira hero’s day would be a good idea and give them all a medal.

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